Comments on: Age of Autism: Show Me The Monkeys! http://www.ultrabodyandmind.com/2010/02/age-of-autism-show-me-the-monkeys-418 Be a better human being - every day in every way. Sat, 14 Jan 2012 10:35:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: ThatGuy http://www.ultrabodyandmind.com/2010/02/age-of-autism-show-me-the-monkeys-418/comment-page-1#comment-125 ThatGuy Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:57:28 +0000 http://www.ultrabodyandmind.com/?p=418#comment-125 "Right, O.K. Well, is there an animal model for being completely and utterly messed up, both in terms of neurological and immunological function?" Sure, in one specific case we call that dead. We're pretty good at identifying dead monkeys from live ones. However whomever said there is no animal model for autism is completely right. There are at least a hundred unique presentations for autism. How would you come up with analogs to all of them in an animal model? “Right, O.K. Well, is there an animal model for being completely and utterly messed up, both in terms of neurological and immunological function?”

Sure, in one specific case we call that dead. We’re pretty good at identifying dead monkeys from live ones. However whomever said there is no animal model for autism is completely right. There are at least a hundred unique presentations for autism. How would you come up with analogs to all of them in an animal model?

]]> By: David N. Brown http://www.ultrabodyandmind.com/2010/02/age-of-autism-show-me-the-monkeys-418/comment-page-1#comment-24 David N. Brown Wed, 03 Mar 2010 19:52:02 +0000 http://www.ultrabodyandmind.com/?p=418#comment-24 The present article gives a highly derogatory and distorted account of a work by me. The author has refused to post the following correction to the most significant ommissions and misrepresentations: I wrote the letter to Neurotoxicology, and I must insist that certain things be noted. First, I sent the letter last November, as soon as I became aware of the paper. The omission of this information suggests that you are trying to incorporate it into your allegation of a timed “campaign” against Wakefield. Second, I ensured that my exchange was documented thoroughly and in a timely way, and made available to whom it might concern. Thus, to speak of "claimed" and "alleged" is quite frivolous. Finally, my only arguments were the evidence that Wakefield committed fraud, and the standard professional penalties for fraud. I said nothing whatsoever about the honesty or quality of Wakefield's current work. Therefore, to precede a discussion of my correspondence with a hypothetical line about "poisoned" monkeys is entirely deceptive. The present article gives a highly derogatory and distorted account of a work by me. The author has refused to post the following correction to the most significant ommissions and misrepresentations:
I wrote the letter to Neurotoxicology, and I must insist that certain things be noted. First, I sent the letter last November, as soon as I became aware of the paper. The omission of this information suggests that you are trying to incorporate it into your allegation of a timed “campaign” against Wakefield. Second, I ensured that my exchange was documented thoroughly and in a timely way, and made available to whom it might concern. Thus, to speak of “claimed” and “alleged” is quite frivolous. Finally, my only arguments were the evidence that Wakefield committed fraud, and the standard professional penalties for fraud. I said nothing whatsoever about the honesty or quality of Wakefield’s current work. Therefore, to precede a discussion of my correspondence with a hypothetical line about “poisoned” monkeys is entirely deceptive.

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